Unless you just wanna spitball some ideas. I have 20 practice days I need to fill and only a handful of sketches for them
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Also all the interactions with the teams besides the dale
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Basically the game is 40 days long. Every other day is either a game day or a practice day. Every other game day is either away or home. On practice days, there is a team skit you interact with, on home game days, there is an individual you interact with, and on away games there is an away team you interact with
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Meaning day 1- practice and introduction-tutorials
Day 2- home game w/ dale and interaction w/ lalengua-tutorials
Day 3- practice and team interaction- you get your jersey
Day 4- away game- party with the dale
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There’s a really dumb mechanic I had to make where you touch blaseballs to gain a variable number that then will coincide with a character number so you can unlock the cutscenes at the right place and it’s;;;; frustrating
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Like let’s say you get mcdowells happiness to 6 but his first cutscene can’t take place till day 7 I forced the game to pick up an extra variable each day so it won’t trigger until “McDHap>7,blaseball=7) so it has to take place on the 7th day
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Which I guess if you know coding that probably sounds very easy and straightforward s cuz I know that’s what code ppl do but I don’t know any of that stuff and it took me;;;;; a long time
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Basically what I’m saying is I’m laying a lot of framework and things won’t get SUPER rolling until I kind of finish that.
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Right now I’m desperate trying to figure out if I can somehow make a rhythm game in this because I want so badly to make qais dogwalker DJ and you have to prove your cool and “dance” in the Glundam
If it's because I picked 7 that's just an arbitrary number the actual first cutscene with McD would happen at 5 hap which you can only get on a game day so at minimum the first scene with him would happen at?? Day 10
Anyway! /Are/ there any wanted suggestions for the practice days? That's basically the time where the team just hangs out and you get to have a fun interaction
--taking pepito for a walk with (player)
--car wash day with vito
--taco truck does meals on wheels
--mandatory cleaning up the dugout duty
--shopping with bmase
also my list of desires boils down to 'kiss basil so sweetly and softly' but adding a whole new route is a lotta work and i wouldnt Actually ask that of you. if i really need to ill dust off my old VN software myself
I thought very hard about it when I was first starting this and I eventually had to say no but I need you to understand I did think about it for more than 10 seconds
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What I wanted to do was actually make a system where you could choose If you wanted like, the people versions of the characters or the weird messed up animalistic versions, but frankly that's just too hard to do
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99% ideas, 1% implementation
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God if I knew how to code or had a computer I'd be a menace
Back in the day there was a fantastic Yuri on Ice fic that was structured like a forum for a (fake) dating sim where the secret route was that you had to jump through all these hoops to get Yuuri and Victor together. Because I am, at heart, a useless shipper, I’ve been thinking about that a lot since you announced this project
I love weird fan content so much and I've always been the one making overly complicated AUs and projects
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I just! I love to see it
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Especially when it has almost nothing at all to do with the source material and you can look at the final project and just go "dang, they did that huh?"
Good news about the dating sim is that this should not take me a year and a half to make unlike the good omens comic which has taken a year and a half and is still not done
(which, anyone can do the preview actually. I'd appreciate any feedback on what I have so far. I think there are one or two typos because my ipad autocorrects things.)
I have tomorrow off! I'm hoping to get the dale away game done and maybe a practice day as well?
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Also I think I figured out how I'm going to decide if I want the umpire to kill You(edited)
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I'll make the practice day hangouts an option but if You skips 5 in a row it's over(edited)
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Or maybe just 5? I'm not sure how to set a variable like "consecutive" so it may just be once the 5th friend event is skipped an umpire is gonna blast You to the moon next game
If anyone has any pictures of around LA they wouldn’t mind me editing that would be super cool. I probably shouldn’t be grabbing random photos from google
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Sexton and basil get along by basil saying something kinda teasing, sexton taking it earnestly, and then basil feeling bad and having to explain the joke. This continues until finally basil realizes sexton is messing with him and proceeds to give some stupid comback about his shirts
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Sorry phone call
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Okay I'm back lol
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I imagine basil communicates mainly with sarcasm and metaphors
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And sexton is a dumbass so sometimes they argue
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But then sexton gets kinda sly about it and basil ends up realizing he's been played
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And tries to be all cool about it
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But gives a crappy comback like 'yeah well....your shirt is gray!'
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And sexton is like 'wow I'm shook' making fun of basil saying something similar earlier
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Are you going to include the sexton not knowing what a gay is in there
Idk they're like very different people who respond to stress differently and communicate differently but I feel like they've known each other for so long they kinda have that sibling vibe
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They mesh in a weird way that's built less on their personalities and more on their similar situations and proximity over time. Like siblings lol
hey birb? would i be able to see what the structure of like. creating dialogue and player options is like on that? i wanna see if i can........ translate it
im asking cause im interested in uh. offering to translate this to something desktop-friendly for you? but i need a lil more info to see if its within my skillset. are you able to explain how uhhh. like progression works in the game? like you mentioned a 'happiness' level for the characters. i understand if youd rather not though!
everything makes plenty of sense so far! i think i understand kinda what you mean with the hidden stats too. have you got an idea of how many outcomes the game will have? just a ballpark is fine
You run into Sexton and BMase
> “Oh hey Sexton and BMase my friends that I know”
> “WOW DO I LOVE HORSES AREN’T HORSES VERY GREAT? WHO ELSE AGREES WITH ME?”
would you be able to estimate how many ways there are to achieve just one? like how many paths give or take would lead to that one. cause i think the way your program works. is a bit like. a series of variables on a graph fill up, and as they go upwards theres. different paths the material can go into, that converge and split again. if that makes sense. and what id be using is twine, which (not metaphor) works like a series of sticky notes on a board with twine connecting each. i think i can do behind the scenes stuff so that i can outwardly mimic the way your original version works, but it would in reality be a series of 'if player picked x and y choices option z is made available'
As long as you have 5 McD happiness and bb>5 you can go on the first McD date. It doesn't matter if it's day 35
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I really do feel like I'm too stupid to be coding this sometimes tbh. It's taking me a very long time to do things that I think should be simple and it's because I just don't know how this stuff works(edited)
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I'm not tech savvy at all
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I just wanna write stories and draw pictures and a dating sim is a very complicated way to do that(edited)
oh god i feel you exactly ive tried a few different kinds of coding before, in a games setting even, and some of them i just. cannot understand even a bit. twines tricky and my experience with it is low, but theres a tactile element to it that helps me process whats going on
I wish I had a better way of sending you the code I'm using other than just taking pictures of it
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Also I keep saying "code" it's not really code it's just plugging in variables and conditions into a system and hoping it works but it has code-like properties that are driving me nuts
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I'm very glad I used to do html for my neopets page else I'm sure i wouldn't know anything at all about this
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Or maybe that's a bad thing and has given me the hubris to think I can make a dating sim
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But I have completed 3 days of it
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That's 7%
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Which is terrible
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But!!! I'm doing it
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And I won't stop because I'm stupid and you cannot stop me
its farther than ive ever got with game attempts!!!! and like. just getting the experience is good!!
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i think what ill do re translating. ill download the app on my familys ipad so i can run thru the game myself, and after that and maybe one or 2 more questions, i think ill be able to tell if remaking it in twine is something i can do
oh homestuck grey. like the lightish one. also ummmmmmm if u need mobile compatible. i think twine is technically? but it Also has coding to it so idk if itd be an improvement for u
I mean if birb is still publishing on the app mobile wouldn’t be a priority. I don’t think twine naturally has responsive images though - text and navigation is fine, pictures seem to get cut off
So far so great! Made it all the way to dinner and I'm gonna try every route possible to see if there's anything. There hasn't been any misspellings as far as I'm aware
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I've been doing the other options but have skip enabled to get to them faster. I'm guessing kocho doesnt have an option to disable auto-skip after making a choice which is a lil frustarting missing the text and having to go back
i have not found any typos necessarily, but if you want someone to like copyedit and stuff lemme know cause this is actually something creative i know how to do(edited)
Hazel 🐸👽 (they/it)
I've been overlaying the nitw soundtrack while playing and it's a wonderful experience
Also I think the text speed thing Is just a kocho problem. There is a skip button that is surprisingly easy to hit and if you do it's going to zoom through the dialogue
* slides in* hi umm theres a lotta cool free music u can use for stuff like this! either specifically made for games/visual novels, or just. in general! i can dig up some of my links for u if youd like
oh! well in that case. i shoulda been in bed [redacted] hrs ago. please ping me whenever youd like closer to evening time ish and i can getcha those links (and be much more coherent about it)
So from tonite till I'm done moving I'm not gonna have any internet so no more progress will be made. I'll have my phone data so I'm not going completely radio silent but I likely won't be on discord much till next week ✌️
I was initially going to have the dale party scene be an optional thing but honestly I think it's going to be mandatory even if you are trying to fail the game as quick as possible. If you go to Miami you go to a party that's the rules
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Even the Killjoy friendless You cannot escape party time
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You WILL see Qais Dogwalker DJ and You WILL like it
I still feel like mcd is an integral part of the tacos wherever he is so I am personally choosing to simply ignore his absence for now but yeah!! Yeah that’s rough!
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There is also of course the bigger siesta planned for about a month or so after the era wraps? Which should hopefully give you a bit more stability to figure out how you want to handle things if you decided you wanted to hold till then
I've just been thinking about like. I'm not making comics or illustrations for the tacos because I've been working on this game that the longer I work on it, the less......I want to
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Not that I don't want to. I very much do. But it's;; hard to keep the momentum going when I know sportsman and McDowell aren't even here I guess
Birb I am very excited about this dating sim ^_^ I know the feeling of losing momentum on a project.
I dont think anyone will really forget that chell was always a taco ( People still simp for her and by people I really mean me) I'll always be down to test what you have so far :>
I have given this some thought.
And frankly, I’ve decided it feels like a bummer to work on, even if I keep it as a snapshot of the season it was started. I was always aware the characters could have been traded or incinerated (thankfully they weren’t) but I didn’t expect trades to happen so /soon/ after I started. Wild low isn’t even a thing any more so it feels- idk. Idk!
That being said, I do have a bunch of assets made, and a beginning written out, and I am absolutely more than willing to hand what I have done off to someone else if they want to pick it up. Be it the assets or the writing or anything. If you wanna use it feel free to ask and I’ll give it.
A large part of the problem is the program I was working with (Kocho) is……..extremely unfriendly to use XD and I just wanted to do more than it was willing to let me. So whenever I feel like “yeah! I’ll work on the date sim!” I run into a coding wall that I just can’t get over without an hour of work that by the time I’m done I don’t want to actually write the game.
Sorry I’m a bummer but I do have other things in the works that will hopefully make up for it
(Also if u wanna delete this channel at some point that would be cool)
Yeah I understand Birb. I can't make any promises because I'll have to see if my college let's me take a leave at the end of August but I would like to continue the taco dating sim ^w^. It's a wonderful project! I've been trying to learn RenPy actually
@xXx⚡birbteef⚡xXx stuff like this is never really a waste because you learned something along the way. even if its that the tools you picked out suck, you at least learned to not use them in future(edited)
oh yeah im still open for help. when i mean test, im going to see if the new thing im doing is going to work. Im not using RenPy for the first test. im making a dummy in adobe premiere to secure the overall look and feel of the game. The overall plan is that each volume contains 2 characters and each character route takes around 45 minutes to complete
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It's going to be hard to find a VA for mcd because sasquatch
Oh yeah absolutely.
there might be someone out there in the blaseball fandom that sounds like him
So the test is going to be a video format rather than a game but it looks like a visual novel playthrough. theres only one ending though for now(edited)
I agree with cama but I think Warburton always sounds like Warburton and if you could get someone with the same...sound? That doesn't sound like Warburton, that's who I would want
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If that makes any sense at all
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But that sort of blunt and deep but still?? Like kind? Like he sounds kind idk if that makes sense at all
Hey @xXx⚡birbteef⚡xXx and @Hazel 🐸👽 (they/it)
I know this project kinda reached a pause point.
Do you all mind if we archive the channel? It would go down to the archive category and be read only and if/when someone wants to revive it they can shoot a modmail and it'll be back (or Hazel can just do it themself I think)(edited)