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A channel to coordinate plans about NaN, voting or otherwise. Please refer to the Vibes Poll (in the pins) to get started, and remember that pitches should still end up getting posted in #voting-pitches
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 14-Jun-21 07:25 PM
This survey is to get an idea of what the general team opinion of NaN is, as well as how we should approach them from a strategic point of view. We hope to use the results of this survey to inform the team's strategy for at least the upcoming Season 20. Submissions to this survey will be made public to Tacos fans in the Discord, but are anonymo...
Cliff, Perpetual Lurker pinned a message to this channel. 14-Jun-21 07:25 PM
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 07:47 PM
Can we get screenshots of the results for those of us on mobile?
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 07:47 PM
one moment
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Remove Flickering Retrieve them if they leave
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Improve their stats Send them to the shadows Remove Roamin' Don't purchase Replicas
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 14-Jun-21 07:49 PM
Lol, I really should've made "Maybe" more useful there...
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Kavr👻n (🍎) 💤💚 14-Jun-21 07:49 PM
I mean, it's the standard, there's a lot of blaseball to happen yet.
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 14-Jun-21 07:50 PM
We need to press-gang some form designers or something.
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker
Meaning (grember) 14-Jun-21 07:53 PM
What happened to the alternate question? No longer possible?
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 14-Jun-21 07:53 PM
That sounds right
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Let me check to be sure
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 07:54 PM
yes we don't have alt-trust anymore
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 14-Jun-21 07:54 PM
Yeah. We removed it bec - what quin said. (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 07:55 PM
there is no longer a Will that alternates a player;; there is a blessing, but odds are NaN will not be on our team during the election, it would hurt us more than help
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 07:58 PM
okay to try very generally to summarize those poll results: - there is a pretty broad consensus on it being okay to use a will on NaN and at least reasonable openness to using both, with very little resistance to doing anything - the most approved positive plan is fairly clearly Reform Flickering, with very few disagrees; Reform Roamin' and Shadow have mildly positive responses, and Boost Stats has people mostly feeling neutral - there is i would say decisive consensus on NOT trying to get NaN back if they flicker and NOT buying funkos to avoid echo-based problems - the biggest area that doesn't seem to be covered one way or another here is how to deal with trying to use a will before flickering could happen vs. at endseason does anyone disagree particularly with any part of that? (edited)
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) pinned a message to this channel. 14-Jun-21 08:15 PM
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 14-Jun-21 08:28 PM
I'm not gonna lie, it's gonna be real funny if this channel just ends up being like 12 messages of actual planning (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 08:28 PM
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 14-Jun-21 08:29 PM
bongers
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I feel like half the NaN strategy is going to depend on if they flicker away or not
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 14-Jun-21 08:30 PM
Yeah, it'll more than likely pick up later on in the week
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 14-Jun-21 08:30 PM
uhhh should we repost the NaN specific schedule in here?
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 08:30 PM
I plan on dumping at least 10k votes into Reforming Flickering before there is a chance of them flickering
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Pebble Possum 💜 14-Jun-21 08:34 PM
since reform wimdies are "safe" I have a feeling the NaN strategy is going to end up being "wimdy it before feedback happens if you want to, and if it's enough we won't drown it out with a second will"
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 08:34 PM
What’s the spoiler command
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!spoiler
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not that
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 08:34 PM
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Pebble Possum 💜 14-Jun-21 08:34 PM
hose
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 08:34 PM
no im on mobile
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 08:35 PM
then your message then ||
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DDDragoni 💚 14-Jun-21 08:35 PM
it should be y!spoiler if memory serves (edited)
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 08:35 PM
it's y!spoil
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not spoiler
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i hate it
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DDDragoni 💚 14-Jun-21 08:35 PM
heck
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YAGPDB.xyz BOT 14-Jun-21 08:35 PM
@NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 shared the following spoiler-tagged image(s) with this message:
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 08:36 PM
as we can see there are only 3!!! Chances for them to feedback
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While nothing is guaranteed, it seems possible we keep em for a little longer.
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I wouldn’t bet on it because of our lineup size, but it’s possible
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If Jesus roams to us though? That’d be poggers
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 08:37 PM
i am 100% down to reform flickering, and if they stick around then swaping them with son
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Centritide🌮💜 14-Jun-21 08:37 PM
oh yeah we have son! totally forgot lmao
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 08:38 PM
swaps happen before roams, right?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 08:38 PM
Yep!
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 08:38 PM
yeah, then thats my plan
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Kavr👻n (🍎) 💤💚 14-Jun-21 08:38 PM
does swap work with shadows? I don't have a cheeseboard to check.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 08:38 PM
Roams are dead last iirc
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I was gonna ask why reform flickering over roaming, but then i remembered roaming means they cannot functionally die permanently i think
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:03 PM
also because flickering happens during seasons and is really fast, while roaming is really slow and might be good actually
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:03 PM
Swap works with shadows
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 14-Jun-21 09:03 PM
also roaming might reform to super roaming, which would be counterproductive
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:03 PM
reforms are totally random
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 14-Jun-21 09:04 PM
are they?
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:04 PM
as far as i can tell
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 14-Jun-21 09:04 PM
they seem to at least have some weighting
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:04 PM
Yeah, although therl first two flinch to haunted. Everything since then was inconsistent except something good tends to go to something not bad
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Roaming became high pressure on Beck
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 09:06 PM
i think reforms have categories they roll within
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 09:06 PM
so!! Reason reforming flickering is preferred is because it gives a happy medium- It allows their tour to continue in the shadows, which will buff them every time they roam!! So they can do their world tour AND get strong
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SubtractionSoup 14-Jun-21 09:06 PM
Also roaming is a move, not a swap, so it's less disruptive
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 09:06 PM
yes!! That too
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SubtractionSoup 14-Jun-21 09:07 PM
And Aubz gets to sleep more
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:08 PM
Yeah. Like this season is a calm season and flickering can end up having like 5-6 roster changes if NaN is particularly swap happy. Which is always taken to kindly in initial reactions
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💜Shorty💚(he/they) 14-Jun-21 09:08 PM
We have some patterns, still it's fine to be worried cause we don't have a hard rule for mod re-rolls. That said I don't think you can say Roaming is a better target over Flickering in the case where rerolls are specifically determined because both mods have extreme versions: Super Roaming and Flliiiiickerrring. So its up to us to choose which mod we want to remove by nature of which is better to remove, not what it'll turn into.
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 09:08 PM
i strongly agree, and in that context i feel like Flickering is a far better choice for reasons that Aubz and others have laid out effectively
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:09 PM
If we do decide on doing something before the feedback games, we would want to have lots of votes in it. Which means.... Not rushing #stadium-committee and #gift-shop-discussion
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 09:11 PM
absent some pretty specific things i feel pretty good about that as a choice
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 14-Jun-21 09:12 PM
...we wonder what happens if two reform wills fire on the same mod like if we reformed flickering and whatever team NaN flickered to also tried doing that (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:12 PM
iunno
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Pebble Possum 💜 14-Jun-21 09:12 PM
what renovations are available may affect how many votes we're willing to commit to a NaN will, though the past couple of seasons have been stinkers for renos
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fractal Starlight [it/its]
...we wonder what happens if two reform wills fire on the same mod like if we reformed flickering and whatever team NaN flickered to also tried doing that (edited)
quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 09:13 PM
i mean when the dust settles either flickering would be replaced by one mod or by two mods
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 14-Jun-21 09:13 PM
i mean, fair, but still
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 09:13 PM
like, it'd be interesting if it was two!
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 09:14 PM
Fk All of NaN’s potential swaps away from us are in the midseason
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 09:15 PM
oh, so: we can wait until we know exactly what our reno options are before deciding for or against a generalized push on an early reform
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:17 PM
I mean, ideally we should be able to just limit ourselves to two renos right off the bat no? Unless we get like, the god renos that are exactly what we wanted and more...
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 09:17 PM
yeah i think so
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:18 PM
and 2 paid for gifts
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:18 PM
uh that's other teams' responsibility not ours
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:21 PM
right
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:48 PM
so, just to look for a hypothetical look at every Will with NaN which hasnt been pitched: What can happen + my opinion EE: there is usually like no one in range for NaN, also.... no? Swap: this would dunk them into the shadows and boost them. but is RISKY as an emergency vote because it would send our shadows player to wherever NaN is. Move: moondial yay, but also, as an emergency vote, it would end with us essentially stealling a player for no replacement Take: a soundproof item would be nice, but re-roll is nicer Shadow In/Re: not applicable Reform: been pitched, lets do it! Magnify: oh this is helpful as a batter, and not helpful if NaN ends up pitching
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so personally Reform is the only one I am willing to do on a Wednesday. I am willing to do Swap or Move if NaN ends the season with us
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If we reform roaming we could also get a soundproof item?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:55 PM
yeah, but... i like those shades
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:55 PM
you said it yourself theremin: items are temporary
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yeah but then next season we can reroll flickering
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 09:55 PM
It WOULD at least ^okay yeah that
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the soundproof item would give us a season hopefully
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 09:57 PM
Someone just tie a string to nan
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 09:57 PM
put a bell on him
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:57 PM
as a sunday vote? item ok as a wednesday vote? no. I rather the permanent change to NaN
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 09:57 PM
put them on one of those kid leashes
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 09:57 PM
lol
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:57 PM
The Tacos Take Player Name's Soundproof Cap and give it to NaN. - Fireproof Sunglasses + Soundproof Cap
The Tacos reform NaN. Roamin' --> Unstable
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ArchXL (dead) 14-Jun-21 09:57 PM
then make em do the cat ears so its not wierd
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Kavr👻n (🍎) 💤💚 14-Jun-21 09:58 PM
Roamin -> super roamin πŸ™‚
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 09:58 PM
cause I would rather NaN be no flickering on another team, than be item soundproof on another team
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 09:58 PM
also wouldn't soundproof+flickering cause NaN to just repeatedly entangle themself and get even worse???? (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 09:59 PM
…I never thought about that. wait does soundproof work like that? Or is it only if NaN initiates to someone WITH soundproof
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:00 PM
it would make anyone NaN tries to swap with worse
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 10:00 PM
Soundproof: Unable to be caught in Feedback's reality flickers.
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 14-Jun-21 10:00 PM
i would assume it would prevent attempts
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 10:00 PM
I think it's two way
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:00 PM
NaN would be a nerf for everyone else
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:00 PM
ah, true, it didn't make hotbox worse the one time
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it merely killed it the next season
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:00 PM
but it made NaN worse
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 10:01 PM
Either way soundproof just intrinsically causes problems
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:02 PM
now. it would be prettttty funny if we could turn NaN into a weapon that just nerfs opposing players repeatedly every feedback game
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but that is obviously not the goal we are trying to accomplish here
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:02 PM
NaN superweapon
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:02 PM
NaN chooses violence
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:03 PM
They already did that look at forrest best /lh
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 10:03 PM
NaN tries to make other players have the same number of stars as NaN
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:03 PM
I KINDA LOVE THIS. WEAPONISE NAAAANNNN
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kilozombΔ³ 14-Jun-21 10:04 PM
LISTEN OKAY SO OBVIOUSLY IT"S A DANGEROUS IDEA BUT Y'ALL DID SAY YOU WANTED NAN WITH GUN SO YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE FACTORS OK
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 10:04 PM
Can someone make a "call an ambulance but not for me" meme
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:04 PM
steal a soundproof item: 1) temporarily halts the world tour 2) gives NaN a gun
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:05 PM
I kinda love it lmfao. They finally snap. no more being nice
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:06 PM
soooo... is TAKE a wednesday vote or a saturday vote? (edited)
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 10:06 PM
Def not Wednesday
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Pebble Possum 💜 14-Jun-21 10:06 PM
yeah we don't want to give NaN a gun after they've gone to another team
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 14-Jun-21 10:07 PM
Give NaN Gun Bong
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:08 PM
dang i guess that raises a problem, the problem being that if we vote to reform flicker and NaN ends up on the tacos then we wont be able to guarantee they get a gun because we'll have voted to reform flicker
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:10 PM
NaN with a soundproof item and a rerolled flickering is still fun but not a gun
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DeeJay 💚 β™…
NaN with a soundproof item and a rerolled flickering is still fun but not a gun
Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 14-Jun-21 10:11 PM
This is just NaN doubling down on no more flickers
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 14-Jun-21 10:47 PM
wait does soundproof do impairments that we weren't aware of?
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Pebble Possum 💜 14-Jun-21 10:48 PM
if a player flickers with a soundproof player, the swap doesn't happen and the non-soundproof player gets a stat hit it's why NaN's stats are so bad in the first place
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DDDragoni 💚 14-Jun-21 10:48 PM
NaN tried to feedback swap with Hotbox Sato, on the Shoe Thieves, in season... 13? Hato has Soundproof from Headphones, and NaN got "tangled in the feedback" and lost stars without moving teams. We don't know tbe specifics of how it works
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Pebble Possum 💜
if a player flickers with a soundproof player, the swap doesn't happen and the non-soundproof player gets a stat hit it's why NaN's stats are so bad in the first place
DDDragoni 💚 14-Jun-21 10:49 PM
Oh, no, NaN has PLENTY of other reasons why their stats are bad
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:50 PM
Yeah I was abt to say, NaN has never been good. Even Wyprime was middling at best
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mx stephx 🌮💜 14-Jun-21 10:51 PM
here is how i think i feel about this -NaN is cool. i think they're neat, you think they're neat. we are all love NaN -flickering is obnoxious and we should reform it. items are temporary but we have at least temporary insurance against Unstable with the sunglasses. -the Tacos are currently tops in the ILB with NaN on the roster. bumping them down isn't an emergency. this isn't like when we had seven batters and three of them were automatic outs. -we have a few other ideas for how to spend wills that have support right now, mostly revolving around allowing our Son to rise--after all, we did spend an infuse on them--and bringing another roster regular down for a potential infuse of their own, because a couple of them could really benefit from it (which the vibes poll was at best ambivalent on doing for NaN, and they would likely need a lot more buffs to make it worth) -barring shenanigans we arent in the running for free wills. we get 2 -NaN might roam anyway. doing anything else has a will opportunity cost vs. something that can help two tacos. with all that considered, if our only NaN-related move is to reform flicker i think that's fine for us.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:54 PM
Agreed, but a lot of it depends on whether or not the Wyatts get shadowed or static out.
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.@ feather 💙 14-Jun-21 10:54 PM
honestly the static risk makes me want to shadow them :c
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:54 PM
NaN flickering reform pitch met threshold already, people want this
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:55 PM
I am so grateful 😭
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:55 PM
I only want to shadow NaN if they are a taco
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.@ feather 💙 14-Jun-21 10:55 PM
reform flickering and move them to the shadows, so they can roam the shadows, safe
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:55 PM
I dont want us to have shadow NaN votes in, while NaN is on the worms or fighters or wherever
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:55 PM
mhmm
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mx stephx 🌮💜 14-Jun-21 10:56 PM
ugh as you can SEE from how its MISSING FROM MY GROCERY LIST up there, i forgot static.
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:56 PM
Reform - wednesday vote Shadow - sunday vote
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:56 PM
defo looking respectfully at Reform though!
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:56 PM
Tbh the only static risk this season is nullified if the worms or breath mints choose to become soundproof in the gift shop
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:56 PM
I REALLY hope it goes through. I think I will genuinely cry lmfao
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The NaN with a gun plan is obviously to give them a soundproof item AND reform roaming instead of flickering.
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.@ feather 💙 14-Jun-21 10:56 PM
I get your concern but if we shadow NaN off someone else's team they already lost their player, it just means they don't get a random replacement... which honestly isn't that exciting
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NaN with a gun is hilarious tho lmao
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
if we swap(foreshadow) NaN, we send a tacos shadow player to the team they are on. Also... no bueno for me (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
NaN with gun is in the same tier as stealing shoes for me
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DDDragoni 💚 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
We could Swap instead of Move so we send Seren Moss some random Shadows player
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
swap for eggburt
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mx stephx 🌮💜 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
i'm more concerned with future static risk, not this season. we can't do a lot about this season except, potentially, a static science
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
it feels like the only emergency NaN vote should be reform flickering (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
Actually btw, NaN is at risk this season regardless. Swap to the mints happens before latesiesta
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frog but gay (he/they) 💚💜🌮 14-Jun-21 10:57 PM
hi sorry how long has this channel been here??
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:58 PM
today (as in tuesday) (edited)
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DDDragoni 💚 14-Jun-21 10:58 PM
A couple hours maybe
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.@ feather 💙 14-Jun-21 10:58 PM
if I was on a random team, I'd rather our rotation lineup downsizes than I get a random player from another team or the Tacos shadows (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤
Actually btw, NaN is at risk this season regardless. Swap to the mints happens before latesiesta
💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 10:58 PM
oh dang I thought it was after. darn
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DDDragoni 💚 14-Jun-21 10:59 PM
Barring Reverb, a NaN swap would hit Lineup, not Rotation
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 10:59 PM
Yeah πŸ˜” just hoping it doesn’t happen
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 10:59 PM
I also dont know if we would have the voting power to do two wills on wednesday AND still overpower ourselves voting in a post NaN team
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frog but gay (he/they) 💚💜🌮 14-Jun-21 10:59 PM
thats what i thought. anyways im kinda sleeby and boutta play subnautica for awhile but i would like to keep the lad
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DeeJay 💚 β™…
I also dont know if we would have the voting power to do two wills on wednesday AND still overpower ourselves voting in a post NaN team
.@ feather 💙 14-Jun-21 10:59 PM
fair and excellent point
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mx stephx 🌮💜 14-Jun-21 11:00 PM
5x payout paula turnip is about to give a bunch of people a bunch of votes
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 11:00 PM
OK, lemme explain more
23:02
We have two things going on 1) What to vote on before tacos first feedbcak game 2) What to vote for in the usual time we vote If we do all our voting on Wednesday, and NaN leaves. We are going to have a bunch of folks with money from tunripstonks etc who would outvote the split wednesday votes cause well... what else are they gonna do. Free roam tacos after a full week prob can outvote taco stand in half a week. Which is why I think that the sensible thing for the Wednesday vote is to choose a single will and go hard on it. And as many folks have indicated, reform flickering appears to be the best option for this
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 14-Jun-21 11:03 PM
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quincognito 💚 14-Jun-21 11:04 PM
i both agree that @DeeJay 💚 β™… is correct in his analysis and that we should do that reform flickering only plan
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.@ feather 💙 14-Jun-21 11:05 PM
if NaN is still on the team at the end of the week we're going to want to do something ourselves just for strats reasons anyway
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mx stephx 🌮💜 14-Jun-21 11:06 PM
that isnt necessarily true imo
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 11:06 PM
yeah, if NaN is here Saturday, all of the options are there: add more to reform flickering give NaN a gun reform roaming magnify NaN send to shadows with or without replacement
23:06
and they can each pass through the burrito system as if NaN were "typical", post taco feedback games (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 11:07 PM
I do think that reforming roaming is just straight up not a good idea? given that flicker is more disruptive and roamin could actually be helpful to a degree
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mx stephx 🌮💜 14-Jun-21 11:07 PM
we also don't need to worry about it for now, at least. it might all be moot soon
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I kind of think that the early reform flickering is not going to work, and might make it difficult to get a consensus at the end of the week. But, I guess we can try, anyway. This is a game, and NaN is worth it (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 14-Jun-21 11:08 PM
Why not?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 11:08 PM
yeah, it is a gamble we are playing, and we saw it work once with jaylen emergency vote. but it can fail
23:09
if we do emergency flickering, we need to just kinda adjust the burrito that we operate under "we have 1 will, not 2", which is something we have done in past emergency votes (honse retreival) (edited)
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 14-Jun-21 11:24 PM
schedule to real time conversion First feedback assuming no spillovers estimated 6pm Wednesday Pacific 7pm Mountain 8pm Central 9pm Eastern 2am Thursday British sorry, i didnt do the aussie conversions (edited)
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🌮Talow🌮 15-Jun-21 02:23 AM
Yeah I think priority one for me personally is reform flickering.
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CosmicChopsticks 15-Jun-21 07:47 AM
whats the advantage of emergency reforming flickering? that doesnt protect us from NaN feedbacking away from us this season, it would just keep them on whatever team they feedbacked to
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 07:48 AM
it is nice thing to do
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:48 AM
It’s just a good thing to do over all, it’s a leaguewide protection move
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 07:48 AM
it doesn't really do anything concrete for us. all it definitely does is stop them from repeatedly ping-ponging all over the league in future seasons (edited)
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 07:49 AM
NaN is inherently disruptive in their current state. we are just reducing the level of disruptiveness. It is likely that they dont stay with us, similar to Jaylen's flickering reroll from the garages happening while she was on the mechs
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:49 AM
btw though keep in mind that jaylen’s flicker was a 100% chance proc
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CosmicChopsticks 15-Jun-21 07:50 AM
is emergency retirement vote on the table then? also protects the league, and if they flicker also pulls them back from wherever they go
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 07:51 AM
an emergency move to shadows could also be an option, but it does take away the option to use move elsewhere for actual strats + if someone wimdy unshadows them we're back where we started (edited)
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CosmicChopsticks 15-Jun-21 07:51 AM
true
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🌮alexgndl🌮he/him🌮 15-Jun-21 07:51 AM
Yeah wasn't a wimdy unshadow how this whole thing started in the first place?
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 07:52 AM
mhm
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:52 AM
exactly. And because they’re an echo people want them out, as evident by the Lovers having a major portion of off discord votes to unshadow them (edited)
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 07:52 AM
I think, whatever emergency vote there is. It is a single will. I am willing to do emergency move. But that will leave whichever player they end on, a player down without replacement. It also eliminates the ability to use MOVE as a will if we decide to do that with someone else on the roster. I dont see us requiring REFORM for anyone but NaN
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 07:52 AM
mhm
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CosmicChopsticks 15-Jun-21 07:52 AM
i think i'd probably prefer not to do any emergency voting, and see how things lie at the end of the season
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:53 AM
I’ll say this with 100% upmost confidence- no other team is going to reform their flickering. I’ve been with both as NaNbassador, there’s frankly other issues the FFs and Worms have to deal with (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 07:53 AM
and i think we would be more than fine throwing folks a bone using reform here and then having one will to use on a shadow or a magnify or something (edited)
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 07:54 AM
(i also dont see a NEED for 2 wills of taco improvement this season, until cratemas gives us something horrid or like... blaseball occurs) (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:55 AM
Same, we’re at a REALLY good place
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athenrein 💜 15-Jun-21 07:55 AM
I think that reform flickering is the best move. I'm happy they're here and roaming doesn't always trigger so they could stay, but flickering is just a bad time for everyone.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:55 AM
This is the perfect (and likely ONLY) opportunity to pull this off (edited)
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Hazel 🐸👽 (they/it) 15-Jun-21 07:55 AM
Yeah. Honeslty I think we're one of the only teams that can pull off reforming flickering off of NaN
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 07:56 AM
and the schedule was nice enough to give us monday and tuesday off
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:56 AM
YEAH. It’s perfect
07:56
Is it alright if I spread the word to the NalliaNce? In case we need the extra voting power before ES
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athenrein 💜 15-Jun-21 07:57 AM
We have the kind of will discipline it takes and the connection with the character it takes to pull it off.
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 07:58 AM
oh we have to make that flute call now dont we
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 07:59 AM
Yeah
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ChronoRebel 15-Jun-21 08:00 AM
NaN has to remain among us, if only for lore.
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🌮alexgndl🌮he/him🌮 15-Jun-21 08:00 AM
Well not now...but within 3 hours yeah
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 08:00 AM
Oh for flutes, dang
08:00
Didn't think about flutes.........
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CosmicChopsticks 15-Jun-21 08:02 AM
whats the consideration with flutes?
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ChronoRebel
NaN has to remain among us, if only for lore.
Pebble Possum 💜 15-Jun-21 08:03 AM
excuse me but their name is NaN not SuS
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Pebble Possum 💜
excuse me but their name is NaN not SuS
ChronoRebel 15-Jun-21 08:03 AM
YOU-
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ChronoRebel
NaN has to remain among us, if only for lore.
NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 08:04 AM
sussy
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β˜† mathonwys! 15-Jun-21 08:11 AM
hi i fluted over for the season so ill be dumping votes in before first swap chance! reforming flickering is all-around a good idea. feedback swaps can really mess a team up, which is why the garages shadowed jaylen until we were able to reform her; even if NaN ends up on another team this season, it's still a good idea to go for it to lessen damage down the line for the entire league, and like aubz said other teams they might end up on will likely have other problems to deal with so NaN would be low priority.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 09:53 AM
I am not in the headspace to fully lay everything out, but trust me when I say fifth base on NaN is over all not a good move. Apologies
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 09:55 AM
wrt fifth base NaN Id also point out that the talkers and wiki team have done a lot of work in setting Jesús up for easy handovers and movement over the past siesta in a way which we have not, yes the NaNbassador system has worked, but this is an extra level of effort which quite frankly, we dont need. I have negative interest in making NaN move even more
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ArchXL (dead) 15-Jun-21 09:57 AM
plus it kinda feels like, pushing them out of the spotlight to stick a taco in there. which is something people have complained about in the past. its not a good look for us. (edited)
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Pebble Possum 💜 15-Jun-21 10:01 AM
I'm not married to the idea so I'm fine with being outvoted on this, I just thought it'd be fun
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ArchXL (dead) 15-Jun-21 10:06 AM
also also, a super roaming Echo means all the echos are in danger, all the time.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:21 AM
UPDATE ON NAN WITH A GUN
10:21
yall it’s SO GOOD. It wouldn’t nerf other players… IT BOOSTS NAN.
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CosmicChopsticks 15-Jun-21 10:22 AM
whats nan with a gun?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:22 AM
Item move a soundproof item to NaN
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:22 AM
Reform roamin, give NaN soundproof
10:22
or just soundproof yeah
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ArchXL (dead) 15-Jun-21 10:22 AM
if we give NaN a cannon, that cannon would have a Team hat and Jersey within the day (edited)
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CosmicChopsticks 15-Jun-21 10:23 AM
isnt that a temporary solution, since it will break or be replaced?
10:23
it just delays the teamswapping, it doesnt actually stop it
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:23 AM
True, but we can cross that bridge when we get to it. This accomplishes like 2 things in one will
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 15-Jun-21 10:23 AM
Does it not take both wills to reform and give a gun?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:24 AM
3 things in 2 wills in that option
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤
yall it’s SO GOOD. It wouldn’t nerf other players… IT BOOSTS NAN.
kilozombΔ³ 15-Jun-21 10:24 AM
waitwaitwait, how do you know?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:24 AM
I was talking with the lovers, turns out if someone wearing headphones tries to feedback THEY get the boost
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 15-Jun-21 10:24 AM
Also does it not Nerf the person we take the gun from?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:25 AM
We’d find a donor. Since NaN is flickering and is very disruptive as is I’m sure they wouldn’t mind
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 15-Jun-21 10:25 AM
What soundproof items are in play rn?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:26 AM
yeah, early look at the vibes survey we would have to identify the player, and talk to the team about it. Item theft no communication seems to be middling opinion wrt tacos
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theres also the gift shop potentially
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:26 AM
Agreed
10:26
YEAH!! Phone could mean headphones, then we wouldn’t have to use a will! Even if it’s not it could still be cool
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.@ feather 💙 15-Jun-21 10:26 AM
would this be in place of flickering reform?
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What is the boost from?
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 15-Jun-21 10:27 AM
Tangled in the feedback
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:27 AM
If someone who is soundproof initiates a feedback swap, they get a boost
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤
yall it’s SO GOOD. It wouldn’t nerf other players… IT BOOSTS NAN.
💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:27 AM
Did it just happen???
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:27 AM
I do not like this as much as the simpler rform flickering for logicistics
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kilozombΔ³ 15-Jun-21 10:27 AM
i don't think Phone is headphones. it won't be soundproof. it'll boost a stat and that's it
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:27 AM
But also.... it does achieve 2 wants with 1 will
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚
Did it just happen???
NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:27 AM
It happened very early on. I remember we discussed it when they were going against the thieves
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Reform flickering helps the league but seems likely Nan just goes to the shadows doesn't it?
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athenrein 💜 15-Jun-21 10:28 AM
yeah, if they roam and then get shadowed, they'd just start roaming through teams' shadows
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:28 AM
ok. gotta find this screenshot to confirm it. There is nothing on Bonty's feed about this
10:30
this is the event I know. NaN got worse from a failed flicker
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Pebble Possum 💜 15-Jun-21 10:31 AM
presumably the difference here is that it was the other player who was soundproof at the time
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:31 AM
Yeah
10:32
Apparently it was with a shoe thief after they got the blessing, but I explicitly remember discussion of it
10:32
It would be fun as hell to science
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:32 AM
Hotbox Sato was who NaN tried to flicker with. checking their feed now
10:33
Hotbox did not get any improvement
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:33 AM
Hotbox was different. It depends on who is initiating. NaN was initiating that one
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kilozombΔ³ 15-Jun-21 10:33 AM
if you initiate the swap and you have headphones, it seems like it goes well?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:33 AM
Mhmm
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:33 AM
that sounds like it. but can we actually find this case where it happened please?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:33 AM
It’s not on the feed because it was discipline era, but I’m trying my best
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:34 AM
Discipline era thief? on it
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gaybritishcow 15-Jun-21 10:34 AM
i would be hesitant to try something reliant on an item not breaking in this threeson
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kilozombΔ³ 15-Jun-21 10:34 AM
hloroscopes would hopefully have it
10:34
Soundproof is my personal very favorite option if nan stays with us without feedbacking. we keep NaN with a gun
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gaybritishcow 15-Jun-21 10:35 AM
they'd lose said gun in like half a season though
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kilozombΔ³ 15-Jun-21 10:35 AM
it is not entirely unlikely yes
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gaybritishcow 15-Jun-21 10:35 AM
optimistic as we are, we know the consumers are coming
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ArchXL (dead) 15-Jun-21 10:35 AM
can we get them a carefull set of headphones?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:36 AM
It’s still tuesday, so I’ll pitch it later and see
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ArchXL (dead) 15-Jun-21 10:36 AM
lol
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:36 AM
Aubz, is this a Wednesday idea or a Sunday idea?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:36 AM
hmm good point
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:36 AM
I think the only reason this wouldn't work now is that we kinda sorta already have a lot of votes logged for Reform and trying to change the plan now would set ourselves up to get something we don't want
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:36 AM
cause for simplicitly and logicistics.... I rather the reform flickering and that is that for Wednesday
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:36 AM
fair
10:36
it IS much safer
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do you want to be safe, or do you want to give nan a GUN ?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:37 AM
and our current apple percents could be a problem to overcome (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:37 AM
oh wow
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.@ feather 💙 15-Jun-21 10:37 AM
NaN being bad is also a problem to overcome if we want to keep them in play
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:38 AM
No flickering NaN with soundproof is not an improvement (but it is in fact a statement) Flickering NaN with soundproof is a way to improve NaN, but it is as temporary as items are (edited)
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Pebble Possum 💜 15-Jun-21 10:38 AM
I mean keeping NaN on our team is very likely already out of our hands
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.@ feather 💙 15-Jun-21 10:39 AM
I meant 'in play' in general
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the idea of flickering soundproof NaN is that there is currently nothing that prevents roaming other than force items, and so we should deal w that first
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.@ feather 💙 15-Jun-21 10:39 AM
like, we could have just started this whole convo moving them to the shadows but we didn't and I'm assuming there was a reason
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:40 AM
for me: there is a chance that we would want to use Move on... not NaN there is no chance we want to reform anything else but a NaN thing
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:40 AM
ill be back to discuss more after ES plot
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:40 AM
1) cause they're roamin' so we don't get to keep em anyway 2) SOMEONE out there clearly wants them out, because they were in the shadows before and that's how we got into this in the first place
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚
1) cause they're roamin' so we don't get to keep em anyway 2) SOMEONE out there clearly wants them out, because they were in the shadows before and that's how we got into this in the first place
.@ feather 💙 15-Jun-21 10:41 AM
1 isnt my point, shadow, soundproof, and reform all fix flickering
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:41 AM
shadow doesn't fix flickering though, because if they come back out we're back where we started (edited)
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.@ feather 💙 15-Jun-21 10:41 AM
I mean, same as items, right?
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:42 AM
the difference with the item is that we can still vote to reform while they have it
10:42
can't do that when they're in the shadows
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:42 AM
Update on the mytical improving player It cant be a theif There was no feedback in S11. they got the blessing in S10 elections It would be an expansion era event. not discipline. Unless there was a soundproof player before the theives
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:43 AM
Fridays had Wax and had a player get caught up in it, iirc
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:43 AM
Scorpler...
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:43 AM
THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IT
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:43 AM
BEVAN UNDERBUCK
10:44
Season 6
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:44 AM
BEVAN
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:44 AM
also keep this in mind: in order to keep them completely safe we’d also need to reform Roamin or shadow them
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:44 AM
I am very much on shadow NaN on Sunday train
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 10:44 AM
99% sure that whatever team they end on is going to shadow them, especially if this team is the breath mints
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:46 AM
oh
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 10:47 AM
i might be off slightly... lemme double check dates
10:47
OK NO. I highlighted Bad Neighbours
10:48
THIS IS IT! IT HAS BEEN FOUND
10:50
http://yoori.space/hloroscopes/#all-players/e6114fd4-a11d-4f6c-b823-65691bb2d288 Bevan Underbuck's failed flickering while having wax in their ears. Stat boost is September 11th 2020
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 10:51 AM
EYYYYYYYYYYY
10:53
let me check feedback items
10:59
FEEDBACK ITEMS Liquid Friend(Jands): 3 durability, cryogenic sunglasses Zippy DeShields(Jands): 3 durability hearty cap Clare McCall (FFs): 3 durability travelling cap Brock watson (wings): 4 durability Greedy, air socks Usurper Violet (pies): 3 durability jersey of charisma Bontgomery Mullock (lovers): 3 durability clutch sunglasses Alaynabella Hollywood (garages): 2 durability noise cancelling sunglasses
10:59
Looking respectfully at the ones i bolded. 4 durability is good
11:00
and the lovers are the one that proposed the idea of them getting boosts
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:02 AM
so, as it stands, early vote options are: Gun NaN: Item Move a soundproof item to NaN (which requires some research and diplomacy) Flick it off: Reform Flickering Gun NaN: This is as temporary as items are. But, it will lead to NaN improving with each failed feedback. It does require some extra diplomacy. Current frontrunner item, Bonty Mullock's of the Lovers - Soundproof Clutch Sunglasses. But. IMPROVE NAN and REDUCE SWAPS in a single will. Flick it off: This is simple and easy. we reform NaN's flickering and it is one less thing for NaN to be doing each season. This is permanent and tacos only. Tacos are likely to not be the benefiecery of either of these. but whatever. minimize disruption (edited)
11:02
does this sound correct?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:03 AM
Looks like it!
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Pebble Possum 💜 15-Jun-21 11:03 AM
soundproof team edition in the gift shop is such a tease it comes too late for us (edited)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 11:03 AM
yeaaah
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:04 AM
sooo um... cant get told yes unless we ask. Do the lovers want to like... spend their will and send NaN the soundproofing from their end? this can be done at any time
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:07 AM
on it
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:07 AM
they are also in free will territory
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 11:09 AM
Wait, does Take swap an item??? or....
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gaybritishcow 15-Jun-21 11:11 AM
oh yeah we don't know that
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:11 AM
take. and using item move as an assumption. player would drop their currently held item (a la baby doyles cursed necklace) (edited)
11:12
but. we have not enough data to say anything is known.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:19 AM
i will let the reps handle the rest of that discussion, it's not my domain (edited)
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DeeJay 💚 β™…
I am very much on shadow NaN on Sunday train
athenrein 💜 15-Jun-21 11:20 AM
"Shadow NaN on Sunday Train" would be a good song title
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤
i will let the reps handle the rest of that discussion, it's not my domain (edited)
DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:20 AM
you said on it so quickly lol
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:20 AM
what
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:21 AM
i thought "oh cool, Aubz is doing what I was gonna do"
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:21 AM
i asked the lovers "would it be okay if Bonty lost his sunglasses to the tacos" and they said theyre chill with it but thats all i have
11:21
in terms of whether or not theyd be down to use their wills on it? a different story
11:21
also i am nervous to ask
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:22 AM
i also, dont want to ask
11:22
soo you got the "yeah whatevs" for the item. so that is one less thing to be concerned about
11:22
so i guess it is kinda just internal stuff now
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:22 AM
yeah
11:22
i can ask if i really need to
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:23 AM
nah, this is our problem, we can ask AFTER taco feedback games if they leave us
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:23 AM
cool
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quincognito 💚 15-Jun-21 11:23 AM
do we have an estimate of how many votes all those existing reforms are?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:23 AM
we do not, cause i dont wanna
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:23 AM
30kish NAWBALL early votes
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:24 AM
is that VOTED or intended?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:24 AM
votes in
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:24 AM
love yall
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:24 AM
so it might be hard to combat that haha
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:24 AM
for the sake of simplicity, wanna just abandon gun nan?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:25 AM
probably. they can get roamin boosts if theyre shadowed anyway
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:25 AM
shadow roaming nan is nice
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 11:25 AM
but damn i wish there was an easier way for them to get stat boosts lol
11:25
of course they got sippied and got even worse πŸ˜”
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 11:25 AM
yeaaaaaahhh
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 01:52 PM
hey y'all would we be good to ping tacos in a few minutes and get a server-wide vibe check on the early reform dump?
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LOLO the Spooky Owl 15-Jun-21 02:00 PM
@NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 want to make sure you saw Jello's message ☝️
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 02:01 PM
yeet as soon as i see a response from aubz i'll post
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 02:49 PM
yeah!
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 02:49 PM
πŸ‘
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I don't know how I'll feel if NaN swaps with a good player
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 02:54 PM
that is how we got Val
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kilozombΔ³ 15-Jun-21 02:55 PM
i love how that sounds like we got val for a player similar to NaN but no. literally. we got val when nan feedbacked away.
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💜Shorty💚(he/they) 15-Jun-21 02:55 PM
The early vote would be for reform, not for move. So it should not affect the rooster if we do it early iirc
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athenrein 💜 15-Jun-21 02:56 PM
rooster won't care
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 02:57 PM
brb gotta go rename the trackers to "the rooster"
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💜Shorty💚(he/they) 15-Jun-21 02:57 PM
Yes, as in it will still work to remove flickering as planned, and would not harm a new player
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 02:58 PM
shorty, we are making fun of the typo, you said everything correct
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mx stephx 🌮💜 15-Jun-21 02:59 PM
rooster-strategy
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Well they do hatch out of eggs, there's a connection to rooster
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💜Shorty💚(he/they) 15-Jun-21 03:00 PM
I'm just making sure it's clear that our rooster is safe HEN
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 03:00 PM
HEN
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 15-Jun-21 03:00 PM
Reminder, if you are putting in will votes for NaN to please put them into the tracker
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 03:01 PM
tracker is up and alive in #tacos-announcements
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quincognito 💚 15-Jun-21 03:15 PM
rooster
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So what are the chances Flickering reforms to Fliickerrriiing?
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mx stephx 🌮💜 15-Jun-21 03:34 PM
not zero!
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 03:34 PM
1 in however many mods there are
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I don't think it's that random, a lot of them look like they were chosen by some kind of logic (2x payouts to 5x payouts, magmatic to unstable, etc.)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 15-Jun-21 03:36 PM
the sim is just really good at telling stories :-)
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xXxMcBaseball_Fan_5xXx 15-Jun-21 04:30 PM
I'd be shocked if it wasn't weighted in some way
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 15-Jun-21 05:16 PM
sim is weighted for lulz
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Yeah I assume each mod is in a pool that reform can pull from, kinda like egg groups in Pokemon
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Aqueyatt Maslon (she/her) 15-Jun-21 06:32 PM
still, the odds are not 100% either, because jaylen's reformed to 2x payouts
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 15-Jun-21 06:37 PM
did some math Current Reform Flicker votes: estimated 45,900
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I’m really sorry if this has already been discussed, but if NaN leaves the team, wouldn’t reforming flickering just make it less likely for them to end up on the tacos?
21:15
Or do we just want to stop NaN mixing up the whole league?
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kilozombΔ³ 15-Jun-21 09:15 PM
flickering is very destructive. if NaN returned to our team via flickering, they'd be sending away someone else beloved as a replacement. which would suck. they arrived to our team via Roamin', which is at least not destructive.
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🌮Talow🌮 15-Jun-21 09:16 PM
yeah reforming flickering is explicitly to stop nan from being a team scrambler.
21:17
if they roam away with roamin, alright they get a new player without ya know, getting a beloved player thrown out the window.
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If they stay on the team, shadowing them would achieve the same thing right?
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athenrein 💜 15-Jun-21 09:19 PM
They could still roam away and then they'd be in someone else's Shadows
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 09:19 PM
mhmm! But they’d still roam to other shadows. I think we wait until they come back to our shadows stronger (or the lovers who are also very willing to take them)
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💜Shorty💚(he/they) 15-Jun-21 09:25 PM
In terms of what it takes for NaN to permanently stay on a team, roaming and flickering would have to be fixed. Our thinking is that flickering is a bigger issue as it's more disruptive to teams. Chances are we can't keep NaN regardless because we can't handle both at once, so we're holding off on further NaN improvement/security talk until current plans are done
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 15-Jun-21 09:27 PM
Roaming can also proc in the hall, so it’s good actually (edited)
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mx stephx 🌮💜 15-Jun-21 09:31 PM
im pretty sure you moondial when you shadow roam so it helps nan too actually
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quincognito 💚 15-Jun-21 09:32 PM
yep
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 09:44 PM
The ideal plan imo (only my opinion) is: 1) Reform flickering and shadow them 2) They start a new leg of their world tour in the shadows, safe from static 3) They get boosted each time they shadow roam 4) When they land on the lovers or tacos, we grab em back out and reform roamin 5) NaN is now good, confident, and they’ve finally found themself and thus have learned to navigate life as a post-human anomaly (edited)
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Centritide🌮💜 15-Jun-21 09:45 PM
for part 4) of that we have no idea what the wills would be
21:45
but i do like the plan
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 15-Jun-21 09:45 PM
True. But even then, roamin isn’t awful. They can even defy death with it
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 15-Jun-21 09:56 PM
tbf reform is like, the only will that hasnt changed yet?
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xXxMcBaseball_Fan_5xXx 15-Jun-21 11:43 PM
yeah i'm.. reluctant to spend two wills on NaN but I guess if they're still on our team at the end of the season we'll need to do something about their spot on our line-up, might as well shadow
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mx stephx 🌮💜 16-Jun-21 10:06 AM
we have what, seven hours before we need to dump wills if that's what were going to do?
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CosmicChopsticks 16-Jun-21 10:06 AM
in that case the call should probably be made asap
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mx stephx 🌮💜 16-Jun-21 10:09 AM
the poll in announcements is 186-38 in favor.
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CosmicChopsticks 16-Jun-21 10:37 AM
i cant think of any better ways to do it, but for a while ive felt like the occasional polls we have of the form "do we do this thing or not" are pretty leading
10:37
i feel like theyre almost always going to come out as a yes, pretty much regardless of what the proposal is
10:38
thats not saying that i dont support reforming flickering, and we should follow the poll here
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mx stephx 🌮💜 16-Jun-21 10:47 AM
usually ideas dont even reach the poll stage without pretty strong support. this one might be a lil special case tho like aubz's pitch hit the upnut threshhold real fast, this is probably something we collectively want to do (or are at least content doing)
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.@ feather 💙 16-Jun-21 10:51 AM
we have seen public polls split more closely in the past, a few reno polls come to mind. however, a decision making model we use a lot on the stand is "create space for the most involved people to discuss" + "take the results from the small focused discussion to the wider stand to make sure they're not off base from the general team" it let's people with a lot of investment participate while letting everyone feel they have a part in the final say, even if the final poll is more of a formality sometimes
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.@ feather 💙
we have seen public polls split more closely in the past, a few reno polls come to mind. however, a decision making model we use a lot on the stand is "create space for the most involved people to discuss" + "take the results from the small focused discussion to the wider stand to make sure they're not off base from the general team" it let's people with a lot of investment participate while letting everyone feel they have a part in the final say, even if the final poll is more of a formality sometimes
Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 16-Jun-21 10:55 AM
yeah this is my favorite part of the 7 layer burrito
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:33 PM
82.5%, +10k votes, 83.9%
13:33
i dont know math but theres my data point for figuring out how many votes we got
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:33 PM
Heck yeah a real data point! Thank you arch
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:34 PM
oh, now its 85.0
13:34
hmmm
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CosmicChopsticks 16-Jun-21 01:35 PM
i just put 10k in as well but didnt look at the %s
13:35
but presumably its mine that took it up to 85
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:35 PM
yep
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🌮Talow🌮 16-Jun-21 01:36 PM
I just threw 12k in
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:36 PM
86.2%
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:37 PM
roughly 140k votes in wills in total thn
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:38 PM
thats about a third of our tracked wills last season
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:38 PM
paula bucks werent this past season
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:38 PM
dunno how much off discord help we gonna get either
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🌮Talow🌮 16-Jun-21 01:38 PM
yeah, turnip kinda broke the economy harder then usual.
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:38 PM
i only have 47.5k on the tracker....
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:38 PM
oh, yeah, gotta fill that out
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 01:39 PM
I can throw some in
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 16-Jun-21 01:39 PM
Wrong screenshot
13:39
13:40
How to math: ask wolfram or desmos
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:40 PM
yeah, and then the two dumps right after
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:40 PM
nice πŸ˜„
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 01:41 PM
Wheres the tracker I just added 10k
13:41
can someone put me in
13:42
Also
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:42 PM
y + new votes = will total which would have been 125000 at time of arch contrib
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:42 PM
87%
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:42 PM
Please fill this out so your votes show up on our Strategy Sheet! Only fill out the spaces for the Wills you voted for, leave the rest blank when you submit! Multiple submissions are allowed. Blessings and Decrees are in a different form Our recommended vote distribution (just guidelines! vote as you please!): - The %s are out of total votes, t...
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:43 PM
i do declare deej
13:43
linking in this most public of channels
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Pebble Possum 💜 16-Jun-21 01:43 PM
yeah um
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:43 PM
what will they say
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:43 PM
visitors arent here
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Pebble Possum 💜 16-Jun-21 01:43 PM
I think we did in fact have some visitors here who temp fluted to help
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:43 PM
visitors are not here
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Centritide🌮💜 16-Jun-21 01:44 PM
oh no fmee6ing can see our wills tracker whatever shall we do (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 01:44 PM
Btw there are NAWBALL visitors but I have em covered
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 01:44 PM
well then, may i offer my apologies and my hopes to see you at the cotillion.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 01:44 PM
As far as tracking is concerned
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🌮Talow🌮 16-Jun-21 01:45 PM
realistically I'm not that concerned with our wills tracker being visible to visitors this season, there's a lot of players who are on other teams who fluted over to contribute to this.
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 01:45 PM
aubz still want me to put your votes in the tracker?
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DeeJay 💚 β™…
aubz still want me to put your votes in the tracker?
NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 02:06 PM
Nope I did it
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 02:06 PM
kk
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 02:06 PM
not the NAWBALL votes yet
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.@ feather 💙
we have seen public polls split more closely in the past, a few reno polls come to mind. however, a decision making model we use a lot on the stand is "create space for the most involved people to discuss" + "take the results from the small focused discussion to the wider stand to make sure they're not off base from the general team" it let's people with a lot of investment participate while letting everyone feel they have a part in the final say, even if the final poll is more of a formality sometimes
quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 02:55 PM
also in this particular case part of the specific goal was to make sure a few different subcategories of tacos were broadly happy with our direction on NaN for this election and i think the vibes poll + special discussion space got us to that
14:57
do we have any sort of general goal we want to hit here? like: how strongly should i be thinking about liquidating votes on this rn
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 03:00 PM
Hard to tell. Math is hard because we want to have enough votes that we don't out vote ourselves later in the week
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mx stephx 🌮💜 16-Jun-21 03:11 PM
im gonna put everything ive got into it in a minute. rogues have the stalk market behind them too.
15:12
we dont have much voting power on wednesday as opposed to saturday so i want to make sure we hit our usual will safety
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InnercityGriot 16-Jun-21 03:26 PM
I'm not dropping anything until Saturday night, the Sexton mid-week thing sort of showed that people vote heavy early on stuff like that, don't want to get caught with our pants down for the second will
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 03:35 PM
totes fair, as much as i want this, i dont want this to comprimise the overall election
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quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 03:36 PM
Does anyone have the final s19 tracker handy to grab the raw will vote totals (edited)
15:36
turnip market does make things hard to do a 1 to 1
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quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 03:37 PM
Yeah i see we spent 200k on each will last season so my super scientific estimate is that we should aim for 300k here
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 03:38 PM
and go into whatever the 2nd will on saturday is to get 40-40-wimdy as our apple percents
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mx stephx 🌮💜 16-Jun-21 03:40 PM
we're at 80k+ tracked
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quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 03:57 PM
Ok so we still need quite a bit
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤
not the NAWBALL votes yet
quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 03:57 PM
Did these go in?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 03:59 PM
they have not
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 16-Jun-21 04:01 PM
ok i'll dump like 30k in after these games finish
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quincognito 💚
Did these go in?
NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 04:04 PM
Not yet!
16:04
I’m gonna ping them for a reminder
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Lizzyatt Mason (she/they)👟🌮🎤🔱🌞 16-Jun-21 04:57 PM
i just put in a bunch of votes, this was like the first season where i actually had a lot of money so!!!! putting em towards NaN
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 04:58 PM
awesome! make sure to track em
17:05
GET YOUR VOTES IN. FIRST FEEDBACK GAME IS NEXT
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 16-Jun-21 05:06 PM
ohhh boy
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quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 05:11 PM
Okay we're up to about 160k, still have a little ways to go
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 16-Jun-21 05:11 PM
wow 160k is about as much as we had in each will last season i think (edited)
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quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 05:12 PM
We got each to around 200k so this is good but we do want to aim higher due to stalnks
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.@ feather 💙 16-Jun-21 05:12 PM
just dunked 25k
17:12
book it by which I mean I need to go update the tracker xp (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 05:14 PM
I’m gonna probably put another 10k in soon
17:14
for a total of 20k
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 16-Jun-21 05:40 PM
30k voted and tracked
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Aqueyatt Maslon (she/her) 16-Jun-21 05:42 PM
dropped in 865 votes (and tracked them) which was the absolute most votes i could input while still betting on all the games; i will probably be able to add one more per game that occurs or so
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 05:46 PM
94.4% +15k 94.7%
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 16-Jun-21 05:48 PM
oookay that's a lot
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 05:50 PM
In turnip economy we need a lot
17:51
Our other will might overpower this one bc of the sheer amount of money. We don’t have as many people on this one
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quincognito 💚 16-Jun-21 06:16 PM
well we made it over 300k so i think we're in pretty good shape
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 06:19 PM
this is very good shape
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 16-Jun-21 06:29 PM
nan still here!
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ArchXL (dead) 16-Jun-21 06:29 PM
man, i have new respect for the Nanbassador. i dont even have to do anything if NaN swaps and im still nervy
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mx stephx 🌮💜 16-Jun-21 06:31 PM
i was so glad nan roamed to us lol. like YES we can finally get rid of this cursed mod
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 06:32 PM
1 of 3 down (fk future weather)
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athenrein 💜 16-Jun-21 06:39 PM
Oh good I accidentally missed voting because dinner, I'm so glad they're still here so I can put some votes in now
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Where's the vote tracker? I wanna record my 5k.
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 16-Jun-21 07:56 PM
#tacos-announcements !
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 07:56 PM
also in the pins here
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 16-Jun-21 08:00 PM
here we go
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 16-Jun-21 08:50 PM
safe and elsewhere for now
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 16-Jun-21 08:59 PM
enjoying waffles with cap :)
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xXx⚑birbteef⚑xXx 16-Jun-21 09:00 PM
They're at the wlaffle house having a good time not playing blaseball
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Darth Gar Gar 😈⚑💚💜 (he/they) 16-Jun-21 09:03 PM
mcd knew about the feedback weather and sent nan an invite
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xXx⚑birbteef⚑xXx 16-Jun-21 09:04 PM
That's;;; very cute actually
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 16-Jun-21 09:05 PM
NaN gets to talk to both McD and MaX tacopleadhearts tacopleadhearts tacopleadhearts
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Aqueyatt Maslon (she/her) 16-Jun-21 11:43 PM
i am very scared so i put exactly 17 votes into swapping NaN and dove, because if the sim pulls any fmee6ing then it owes us a wild wimdy of probability to fix it (edited)
23:44
don't worry, i tracked it
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 16-Jun-21 11:53 PM
it would be pretty funny to see dove on the worms because of that wimdy and a flicker
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 17-Jun-21 12:41 AM
nan glasses broke 😦
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ArchXL (dead) 17-Jun-21 12:42 AM
He needs to echo in this next game or he gonna be bit
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🌮Talow🌮 17-Jun-21 12:43 AM
Things I would really like: NaN to echo, and for the smithy or salmon to repair their item.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 01:29 AM
NaN stays!!
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🌮Talow🌮 17-Jun-21 01:30 AM
ngl half way through I started rooting for nan to echo stew briggs.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 01:30 AM
Roamin crimes would have been cool
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🌮Talow🌮 17-Jun-21 01:30 AM
mostly in the hopes that roamin disappeared yeah.
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💜Shorty💚(he/they) 17-Jun-21 01:32 AM
Here’s what needs to happen then. NaN stays with us next season, BUT another player roams onto our team. Then come reverb time, NaN commits more crime
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Pebble Possum 💜 17-Jun-21 01:48 AM
alternatively: make NaN a pitcher so they can echo underhanded
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 02:02 AM
Before I go back to sleep: reminder that shadowing NaN should be a high priority- If they roam, there is a ~50% chance they roam into a league with MaX and static out. (We got INCREDIBLY lucky this season with MaX and Ivy avoiding feedback)
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CosmicChopsticks 17-Jun-21 02:06 AM
i'd have been more onboard with that if we hadn't already committed to reforming feedback
02:06
dont really want to spend both wills on NaN
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 02:08 AM
I get that, but this will is also highly beneficial from a stats perspective as we get to pull a good player (son) from the shadows. I’d view it more as a son will than a NaN will tbh. We also voted pretty neutral on using two wills for NaN anyway, so regardless of whether this is a NaN will or a Son will it’s within possibility and close within current consensus
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Pebble Possum 💜 17-Jun-21 02:10 AM
I think there are already enough priority moves it's competing with to be difficult to justify
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🌮Talow🌮 17-Jun-21 02:12 AM
I think foreshadowing nan for son jenson could at least deserve a pitch.
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Pebble Possum 💜 17-Jun-21 02:13 AM
I would honestly sooner just move NaN to the shadows because otherwise we have no reserve hitters left
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CosmicChopsticks 17-Jun-21 02:16 AM
yeah i almost pitched the swap for son but was convinced to do move instead
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 02:17 AM
I’ll make the pitch tomorrow
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CosmicChopsticks 17-Jun-21 02:17 AM
although that was before we'd made the decision to reform feedback, im not sure i still support it
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🌮Talow🌮 17-Jun-21 02:18 AM
That's fair.
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Pitch was made to swap for Son
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 05:45 AM
My personal preference from the non NaN wills is ensuring chell stays. NaN for Son will essentially improve the team as well. But there seems to be growing concern that chell is the the most valuable player in the league.
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ah yeah fair
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 10:16 AM
Audio schedule for rest of regular season: Reverb for teammate echo concerns: Day 83 Feedback: No more (edited)
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DeeJay 💚 β™…
Audio schedule for rest of regular season: Reverb for teammate echo concerns: Day 83 Feedback: No more (edited)
Caru the Ballclark Estimator 17-Jun-21 10:18 AM
I have Day 83 for reverb, was there a schedule change?
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 10:18 AM
nope, i jsut cant read
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 17-Jun-21 10:18 AM
love me some zero indexing
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Caru the Ballclark Estimator 17-Jun-21 10:20 AM
okay so that reverb game is at 11pm ET, 8pm PT barring spillover subsequent eclipse game (day 89), should that come into play, is at 5am ET, 2amPT, again barring spillover
DeeJay 💚 β™… pinned a message to this channel. 17-Jun-21 10:20 AM
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Caru the Ballclark Estimator 17-Jun-21 10:21 AM
I . . . don't think I've ever actually been pinned before xD this is a weird feeling (edited)
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 11:49 AM
Okay so if i follow correctly, it's possible that after 83 we might know that nan is safe unless one of like 3 specific things happens
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Centritide🌮💜 17-Jun-21 11:50 AM
is it not just one specific thing
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 11:51 AM
1) fourbys unstable chain 2) playoff weather 3) i dont know the third (edited)
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Centritide🌮💜 17-Jun-21 11:51 AM
echo unstable and replica (edited)
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Sorry, new here, is it possible that Chorby Soul IV being Unstable could be like a lightning rod and draw fire away from NaN?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 11:52 AM
The issue is NaN echoing chorby in the first place
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 11:52 AM
so, the way unstable works if an unstable player gets incinerated, unstable chains to a random player in that game. but it is the weekly version of it, so it would be gone by the next end of blaseball week
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Oh, sorry, got Unstable and Flickering mixed up. Like I said, I'm new
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 11:53 AM
no worries, we are here to answer queries
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 11:53 AM
I wasn't counting chained instability because that's just anyone being at risk
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 11:53 AM
Which fk 90 is the last game of the week
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 11:53 AM
There are two nan exclusive risks
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 11:54 AM
we have 8 echo-able players on our team, one is chorby and one is elsewhere so 1/8 chance of being chorb'd and 1/8 chance of just saying "no" unless mcdowell returns
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 11:55 AM
Yep
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Okay it feels to me like the nan specific risks here are smaller than the general risk of Chorby chain
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 11:57 AM
it feels like we havent gotten a double incin due to a chain in a while. Was that just a day of ruby tuesday thing and they fixed it after the emergency siesta? or have we just been fortunate with the 2 additional incinerations of chorby soul and their funko pops?
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DDDragoni 💚 17-Jun-21 11:57 AM
If NaN echoes McD that's it for the game, right? Since they're Elsewhere they can't echo again?
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 11:57 AM
if mcdowell doesnt return, yeah
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DeeJay 💚 β™…
it feels like we havent gotten a double incin due to a chain in a while. Was that just a day of ruby tuesday thing and they fixed it after the emergency siesta? or have we just been fortunate with the 2 additional incinerations of chorby soul and their funko pops?
quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 11:58 AM
We haven't but i got the impression it was dependent on when the first incin happens
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DeeJay 💚 β™…
it feels like we havent gotten a double incin due to a chain in a while. Was that just a day of ruby tuesday thing and they fixed it after the emergency siesta? or have we just been fortunate with the 2 additional incinerations of chorby soul and their funko pops?
💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 11:58 AM
there was a double-incin without instability involved back in season 13, but the weather dial was much more active then (edited)
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 11:58 AM
I'm realizing fig might actually legitimately help here
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 11:59 AM
yeah, im asking for specific Unstable -> Incin Unstable chain -> Incin in the same game
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 11:59 AM
Depending on how unstable procs of course
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 11:59 AM
unstable, unlike flickering, can proc at any point during a game
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 11:59 AM
I know we had it a lot in THAT talkers-tigers game. But i cant come up with a second example (edited)
12:00
ideal case, unstable chains to an off duty pitcher, or fish or fig or the opponents fireeater
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 12:00 PM
OH CAN IT???
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚
unstable, unlike flickering, can proc at any point during a game
quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 12:00 PM
Sorry what i meant specifically is: we don't know if the sim goes proc unstable -> pick unstable player, or if it checks each unstable player separately
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 12:01 PM
oh. yeah no idea
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤
OH CAN IT???
💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 12:01 PM
😬 yeaaaaa
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 12:02 PM
Okay regardless though this conversation actually made me feel better, i feel like all the worst case scenarios now are reasonably unlikely
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 12:02 PM
just gotta have a lil hope
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 17-Jun-21 12:03 PM
have hope
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 12:03 PM
yeah, we really have been fortunate with this entire ordeal
12:04
Um. Can some folks go and upnut Sonrise Nanset It is one of the two NaN to shadows options being pitched, and the other has passed threshold
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 12:05 PM
please for the love of GOD do not vote for that in advance though. we don't want to have a necroNaNcy on our hands
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 12:06 PM
YEAH! there is no more early voting which is worth it now
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mx stephx 🌮💜 17-Jun-21 12:18 PM
i miss nan's glasses.
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚 17-Jun-21 12:27 PM
I do like the potential image of a consumer going to chomp NaN but NaN takes a selfie with the consumer instead
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Duwune🎩(he/him)💚
I do like the potential image of a consumer going to chomp NaN but NaN takes a selfie with the consumer instead
NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 12:29 PM
Omg that’s so good
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🌮Blenjamin Rees🌮 17-Jun-21 12:47 PM
Last time Chorby prime was around, the inability chained to a player who was incinerated the day after, iirc
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DDDragoni 💚 17-Jun-21 12:48 PM
Luis Acevedo
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 07:50 PM
NaN's Elsewhere for the dreaded Reverb game 😌
19:50
we should have nothing to worry about for the rest of the night, I think
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 07:52 PM
once they dont return this game. we are set
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 17-Jun-21 08:15 PM
barring a terrible unstable chain
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 17-Jun-21 08:17 PM
Yeah. That isn't nan specific worries at least
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 08:24 PM
whew so... we are good (on this one specific thing)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 08:31 PM
woooooo
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 08:33 PM
gratz @NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 08:34 PM
safe until playoffs
20:34
manifesting no feedback
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚
we should have nothing to worry about for the rest of the night, I think
athenrein 💜 17-Jun-21 08:47 PM
hahahahahahaha
20:48
(I know jello meant nan-related but... hahahahaha)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 08:48 PM
LOOK THIS IS FUNNY OKAY
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athenrein 💜 17-Jun-21 08:48 PM
it's hilarious I love this night
20:49
and I am super glad NaN is safe yet again
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 17-Jun-21 08:54 PM
They took advice from MaX and said β€œyknow what? I am gonna leave”
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quincognito 💚 17-Jun-21 09:18 PM
if i was threatened with being converted into a living funko pop nightmare doll and then set on fire i would simply go to the wlaffle house
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 17-Jun-21 09:18 PM
if this wasnt in a tacos only channel i would star that
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 17-Jun-21 09:19 PM
I'm doing it anyways
same 7
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🌮Talow🌮 17-Jun-21 09:19 PM
eh, that doesn't really reveal anything besides the channel name.
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Pebble Possum 💜 17-Jun-21 09:30 PM
yeah if it was actual strat stuffs it'd be different
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 19-Jun-21 05:44 AM
HEY YALL! Just making sure that those who have this channel unmuted, but have muted the majority of the burrito have voted in the internal tacos poll from #strategy-announcements . I have copy pasted the msg below: 🎟️ Aaalright! Season's not quite over for us yet, but it's time to vote on this season's strategy! ⏰ The poll will close either 24 hours from now (this was posted shortly after MVPs) , or a little while after we drop out of the postseason. Whichever comes first! πŸ—³οΈ Link to the poll: 🌊 https://forms.gle/F5hAqXAK41PpE9W39 🌊 (edited)
Which pitches should we incorporate into the strategy? Links to the original pitches, including a full description and rationale are included in #voting-pitches. If Blaseball happens and the leading pitches no longer apply, Tacos reps will use this poll, the Taco Community Survey, and any additional polling needed to come up with a final plan.
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^ it's also very important to note one of the voting options is to cast votes for multiple wills to drown out any further unaligned votes like we saw for gift shop/stadium. This is relevant because doing any spread wills (reduces chance of wimdies) does make it less likely for reform Flicker specifically to fire.
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Pebble Possum 💜 19-Jun-21 08:40 AM
uhh multiple wills makes it more likely for wimdies to fire though doesn't it?
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 19-Jun-21 08:41 AM
the whole idea is making a larger pool of different things to prevent wimdies
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 19-Jun-21 08:41 AM
the contrary! hold on i made a visualizer for it lol
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Pebble Possum 💜 19-Jun-21 08:41 AM
wait I'm thinking about wimdies within our target wills
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 19-Jun-21 08:41 AM
we're making our own wimdies, with blackjack and [redacted]
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 19-Jun-21 08:41 AM
08:42
uhhh it might be a little saltier than it needs to be because i made it on thursday, but still
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Pebble Possum 💜 19-Jun-21 08:42 AM
nah it's fine lol
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🌮Blenjamin Rees🌮 19-Jun-21 08:42 AM
Also depends where the 'bad' wills are.
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 19-Jun-21 08:42 AM
bad will: wimdy EE for JT
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 19-Jun-21 08:42 AM
and if you are more mathematically inclined: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/unrjnauqca the calculator for the impact of the 3rd "safety" will
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Pebble Possum 💜 19-Jun-21 08:43 AM
yeah if we have bad Move wills and we're going for Move ourselves, splitting votes off our "good" Move to other wills makes it more likely the "bad" Move fires (edited)
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🌮Blenjamin Rees🌮 19-Jun-21 08:43 AM
If all the bad Wills are in Reform, for example, and we draw our Reform all of those other votes are removed.
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🌮Blenjamin Rees🌮
If all the bad Wills are in Reform, for example, and we draw our Reform all of those other votes are removed.
Pebble Possum 💜 19-Jun-21 08:43 AM
and vice versa
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 19-Jun-21 08:44 AM
preventing EE is the more important bad will if there is a bad will in moving a player within the tacos, so be it. drowning out a potential EE is priority
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 19-Jun-21 08:45 AM
this is true, but the type of people who would try to submit actively bad votes would probably do so in EE, revoke, or magnify (on a pitcher) because those ones do the most damage
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🌮Blenjamin Rees🌮 19-Jun-21 08:47 AM
We'll have to be on point with tracking.
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 19-Jun-21 08:48 AM
we typically are!
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ArchXL (dead) 20-Jun-21 11:15 AM
whelp, its not exactly what we wanted, but at least they are safe?
11:15
ish
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Kavr👻n (🍎) 💤💚 20-Jun-21 11:16 AM
I mean, we put in votes for three wills with the understanding that any two of three would be good. I'd say it's a good result.
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 20-Jun-21 11:17 AM
This is a good result. They are safe. Ivy is safe. They are still home, and if they leave home, they get a boost
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I'm still 70% sure Flickering was going to reform to Fliiickerrriiing
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ArchXL (dead) 20-Jun-21 11:35 AM
i was hoping for Odyssey
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gaybritishcow 20-Jun-21 11:36 AM
considering what happened with silvaire roadhouse, it's probably for the best that we don't have an echo in wild rn
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🌮Talow🌮 20-Jun-21 11:58 AM
yeah, I'm happy with trading reform flicker for not inflicting a debt on NaN.
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🌮Kid Kudi💚 20-Jun-21 02:22 PM
NaN can come back when it’s safe
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I hope NaN gets super buff from their shadow training montage
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 21-Jun-21 04:08 AM
Is giving NaN "On an Odyssey" something that folks are interested in? To do this, shadow revoke NaN is required
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Pebble Possum 💜 21-Jun-21 04:09 AM
Yeah. I'm curious if it'll upgrade Roamin' to Super Roamin' too (which would make NaN super buff in a hurry)
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🔱🌺🐢bluey (they/them)🐢🌺🔱⚑ 21-Jun-21 04:11 AM
uh if it upgrades roamin' to super roamin' we definitely need to consult aubz on this
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 21-Jun-21 04:11 AM
So, we know it wont do superroamin, cause we have seen what Shadow Revoke on an existing Roaming player does. It is how we have On an Odyssey
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Pebble Possum 💜 21-Jun-21 04:11 AM
oh okay
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 21-Jun-21 04:11 AM
SuperRoamin has only been seen through legendary 5th base
04:12
It does lead to double boosts each roam though 1) for the shadow to shadow roam 2) for the Odyssey boost
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🔱🌺🐢bluey (they/them)🐢🌺🔱⚑ 21-Jun-21 04:12 AM
oops
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 21-Jun-21 04:13 AM
We personally really like "free spirit NaN slowly improved by their travels" as Vibes
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🔱🌺🐢bluey (they/them)🐢🌺🔱⚑ 21-Jun-21 04:13 AM
um as i was saying since we didnt manage to reform flickering this at least is a good alternative
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fractal Starlight [it/its] 21-Jun-21 04:13 AM
They'd be doing some soul searching and getting better for it
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Pebble Possum 💜 21-Jun-21 04:14 AM
We won't be able to hold on to NaN in our shadows forever anyway
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Hazel 🐸👽 (they/it) 21-Jun-21 04:14 AM
Bright Zimmerman did only one good thing and thats giving the league the knowledge about Odyssey
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 21-Jun-21 04:14 AM
(3 time champ Bright Zimmerman)
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CosmicChopsticks 21-Jun-21 04:47 AM
embarking NaN on an odyssey would be kinda fun
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Carl-bot BOT 21-Jun-21 04:47 AM
woof
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CosmicChopsticks 21-Jun-21 04:47 AM
thanks carl
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 21-Jun-21 08:20 AM
I’m very down for it
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🌮Talow🌮 21-Jun-21 07:20 PM
not gonna lie I kinda want to shadow alt nan to see if alternating an echo does anything.
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 21-Jun-21 07:21 PM
as long as we can cheese the lore haha
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quincognito 💚 21-Jun-21 07:21 PM
even if i wasn't already an advocate of that for other wimdy alts i think NaN is uniquely suited to it lol
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couldnt echo get rid of alternate?
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β˜† mathonwys! 21-Jun-21 07:22 PM
honestly thats something im curious about
19:23
i figure we've already got some ideas for lore workarounds in place bc i remember talking abt it circa the NaNjam at least
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it probably just reconfigures nan's weird wibbliness for a bit
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 21-Jun-21 07:23 PM
i actually had an idea with this lore wise. what if like...... Dove caused it? or something? and the alts are all digital doppelgangers. But the game engine couldn't handle NaN so they just got spit back out after being Scrombled
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MarioGMan25 21-Jun-21 07:23 PM
NaNdyssy
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🌮Talow🌮 21-Jun-21 07:24 PM
Dove's most accursed video game (to own) strikes again. (edited)
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β˜† mathonwys! 21-Jun-21 07:25 PM
hi aubz i love that? ............. okay but what if . if wydov is ldav's digital doppelganger. does that mean that ldav would come back if wydov got alternated in that context (edited)
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 21-Jun-21 07:27 PM
IT WOULD BE NEAT. maybe somebody managed to pull ldav back out or something
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 21-Jun-21 07:38 PM
ldav being back but with the paperwork to change the name is not worth it
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🌮Talow🌮 21-Jun-21 08:03 PM
"After (X) years I finally set the record straight with lee davenport from the game... what do you mean I'm currently known legally as "wyatt dovenpart?" What even happened while I was gone?"
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 21-Jun-21 08:04 PM
........man now i wanna go for it
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β˜† mathonwys!
i figure we've already got some ideas for lore workarounds in place bc i remember talking abt it circa the NaNjam at least
Caru the Ballclark Estimator 22-Jun-21 12:43 PM
I remember that conversation too, I think the idea I was leaning towards was something like -- there aren't any other NaNs to exchange with? like the sequence of events that led to this person being created in the first place is pretty much mutually exclusive with being able to reach any other dimension where that also happened, otherwise there would be infinite infinite LA's and very bad things would have already happened by now that . . . didn't
12:47
like whatever thing does the alt-ing wouldn't recognize NaN as a Wyatt Mason -- which there are plenty of -- it would recognize NaN as a NaN, which actually might not even be able to be removed from this universe? in that they are literally defined by a tear in this specific reality -- you can't remove a NaN any more than you can remove a hole in the road, sure you can fill it in but you can't just exchange it for another hole, there's nothing there to exchange, if that makes any sense at all?
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sorry this is 1000000% lore not strategy xD
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 22-Jun-21 12:48 PM
it fits kinda?
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 22-Jun-21 01:28 PM
That’s actually such a good explanation
13:28
cutting a hole in a net just gets you a bigger hole
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quincognito 💚 22-Jun-21 01:31 PM
in marvel comics there's a concept called "multiversal singularity" and I am fairly confident that NaN is one of those
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 24-Jun-21 11:51 AM
@Aqueyatt Maslon (she/her) love the pair of NaN pitches!
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Aqueyatt Maslon (she/her) 24-Jun-21 11:52 AM
thanks!
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NaNbassador Aubz 💙🎤 24-Jun-21 12:00 PM
yes tysm
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 25-Jun-21 04:18 AM
Heyya! The two NaN based pitches only need 6 and 3 upnuts respectively (it might be 7 and 4 I can't remember if it counts restarter) Toss an upnut on both or either of aquelon's pitches to make sure that a NaN based plan makes it to the next stage of the burrito The pitches are titled Loveable Bad period (shinfuse NaN) If you love them let them go (srevoke NaN which will give them Odyssey and boosts upon each team move) (edited)
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Aqueyatt Maslon (she/her) 25-Jun-21 02:52 PM
we are one upnut on Lovable Bad Player Era away from both NaN pitches getting to the next stage of the burrito! if you want to support NaN this election and prefer infuse to on an odyssey, give it your consideration!
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 25-Jun-21 07:12 PM
in case yall dont get strat pings or mute #strategy-announcements the taco poll has been posting
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🌮kelly (he/him) 🌮 26-Jun-21 01:11 PM
OK, I had voted Strong No on Shadow Revoking NaN, but now that I've heard the lore explanation I changed my vote to Strong Yes.
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🌮Talow🌮 26-Jun-21 01:13 PM
Not gonna lie, I'm strong no on that, but because I think shadow alternate might cause something to happen.
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🌮kelly (he/him) 🌮 26-Jun-21 01:14 PM
Legit. I also voted Strong Yes on Shadow Alternates.
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β˜† mathonwys! 26-Jun-21 01:18 PM
i'm not able to vote this season myself (+ will be fluting back over next season), but i think it might be a good idea to hold off on shadow revoking NaN until next season to see if we get shadow alt in case something happens.
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kilozombΔ³ 26-Jun-21 01:19 PM
i agree! i would love to see if alt does something with nan
13:19
we have precedent of Alternate altering story mods --- Attractor gets removed by Alternating
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β˜† mathonwys! 26-Jun-21 01:19 PM
alt trust is completely gone as an option, right?
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🌮Talow🌮 26-Jun-21 01:20 PM
we also have a blaseball beat wondering if the other receivers would play some sort of alternate role
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β˜† mathonwys! 26-Jun-21 01:20 PM
yea thats what ive been thinking talow
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β˜† mathonwys!
i'm not able to vote this season myself (+ will be fluting back over next season), but i think it might be a good idea to hold off on shadow revoking NaN until next season to see if we get shadow alt in case something happens.
quincognito 💚 26-Jun-21 01:27 PM
Yeah i am in agreement about giving the alt a shot first here
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 26-Jun-21 01:31 PM
Shadow Alternate Trust is an option for a blessing,,, which is why i am very very very strongly opposed to smashing the revoke button on NaN this season
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β˜† mathonwys! 26-Jun-21 01:33 PM
if we still have NaN next season and we don't get shadow alt trust or another shot at it next season, i'd be down with giving revoking another look at
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quincognito 💚 26-Jun-21 01:34 PM
Yeah i feel like there is some fairly solid consensus on this atm
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Caru the Ballclark Estimator 26-Jun-21 05:04 PM
so . . . I am in no position to complain here since I missed all conversation on the subject, but . . . why are we not reforming flickering again?
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Caru the Ballclark Estimator
so . . . I am in no position to complain here since I missed all conversation on the subject, but . . . why are we not reforming flickering again?
.@ feather 💙 26-Jun-21 05:05 PM
can't reform a shadow player
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Caru the Ballclark Estimator 26-Jun-21 05:05 PM
huh . . . yeah I guess that would do it then
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 27-Jun-21 10:18 AM
hey was nawball doing anything with shadow revoke? we just got a pretty big dump of revoke votes that weren't tracked and we're just trying to figure out where they came from
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β˜† mathonwys! 27-Jun-21 10:19 AM
uhhhh not that im aware of (+ aubz tracks nawball votes for us anyway) (edited)
10:20
afaik the "wait to see if shadow alt happens" thing is nawball consensus
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 27-Jun-21 10:24 AM
interesting! that's weird, then. thanks anyway!
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kilozombΔ³ 27-Jun-21 11:26 AM
FYI: MaX got Alternated, nothing seemed to happen yet.
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 27-Jun-21 11:27 AM
damn that kinda blows. at least NaN getting revoked instead of alted isn't entirely disappointing now that we (think we) know we would have gotten nothing πŸ˜”
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mx stephx 🌮💜 27-Jun-21 11:28 AM
bye nan
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🌮Talow🌮 27-Jun-21 11:28 AM
I'd still like NaN to get alternated, because Wyatt Mason X wasn't one of the listed characters. but then, that is no longer our call.
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 27-Jun-21 11:32 AM
i half think we have to alternate an actual receiver but part of that is i cant recall if they had turned into echos yet when that beat came out
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🌮Talow🌮 27-Jun-21 11:33 AM
well, if we're looking for actual receiver to get alternated, our only option at this point is Sixpack Dogwalker
11:33
where even is sixpack anyway?
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 27-Jun-21 11:34 AM
moist talkers, shadows
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β˜† mathonwys! 27-Jun-21 11:34 AM
six is in the talkers' shadows, she got hit by shadow evolution
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🌮Talow🌮 27-Jun-21 11:34 AM
Well, I hope the most talkers eventually commit a shadow alt.
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ArchXL (dead) 27-Jun-21 12:03 PM
have none of the recievers echoed alternate?
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🌮Talow🌮 27-Jun-21 12:04 PM
suspect the issue is more they need to be alternated instead of becoming an alternate.
upnut 1
12:05
... only in blaseball would a statement like that make any sense.
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 27-Jun-21 12:08 PM
honest question: what's the difference?
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 27-Jun-21 12:09 PM
alt using the will vs alt from a blessing i would assume
12:09
which i could see that being the thread we needed to pull
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🌮Talow🌮 27-Jun-21 12:09 PM
alt actually committing a reroll vs alt being echoed
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β˜† mathonwys! 27-Jun-21 12:09 PM
echoing alternate basically just puts a sticker on and nothing changes
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Dead Mod Hadlem 🌮🍍💚⏳ 27-Jun-21 12:09 PM
oh echoed
12:09
i didnt see that part at first
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DeeJay 💚 β™… 27-Jun-21 12:13 PM
So the receivers have been alternates from echoes echoing alternates before. We have seen it happen
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Kpiozero 🌮 27-Jun-21 03:01 PM
So now that NaN is out of our control for the time being should we uh archive this one until NaN returns?
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Cliff, Perpetual Lurker 27-Jun-21 03:01 PM
We're literally discussing this up top right now, lol
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Kpiozero 🌮 27-Jun-21 03:04 PM
Ice away boss
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Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) 27-Jun-21 03:45 PM
Hi folks, With NaN off on an Odyssey to The Breath Mints, we don't expect #nan-strategy to have much use for the foreseeable future, and plan to archive the channel once we reach Earlsiesta. Until then we will be increasing the slowmode in #nan-strategy from 15 seconds to 2 minutes. Make sure to watch #announcements for updates on when we'll be starting up lore for these trades! Thanks!
Sinjid 💚 👑 Nerd(βœ”) Goof(βœ”) pinned a message to this channel. 27-Jun-21 03:45 PM
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Caru the Ballclark Estimator 27-Jun-21 05:36 PM
Before we throw this board in the Vault, I just wanna say: Breath Mints will take good care of our voidling, I sure won't let them forget they're there xD (not that they would anyway, they're wonderful with small character pieces like this one)
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💚🌮jellorain🌮💚 27-Jun-21 05:46 PM
yeah it'll be vibes
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